Well the honeymoon is over and the Season 5 Shitstorms are popping up on the radar. Today's rustled jimmes come from Jim himself, who has engaged the rage cage of twitter head-on, and also from anons whojust got word that EQG is "canon" from a staffmember. Popcorn popped? Here we go.
@TheBiggestJim Lauren Faust politely disagree with you since 2010.
http://t.co/26hurEwAs2
— Murrison (@Murrisson) April 11, 2015
At one point, Jim even suggested a fan cease watching My Little Pony altogether.
The twitter feud is, in fact still in-progress. Concurrently, a separate tweet is causing some drama, in response to a common complaint about today's episode's "lack of books". Steph Mahoney, a layout manager and animator, tweeted this in response at 9:11.
This was retweeted by Big Jim, effectively canonizing Equestria Girls in the eyes of many fans. This has returned Equestria Girls to feud status.
Anyone who thinks that the fandom is not the SOLE REASON that this show has continued is naive and was very likely not present during season 2. Hell, the show was even expected by the staff to be cut after the third season which is why they made such horribly rushed decisions. This fandom is the reason that the show staff are on hasbro payroll and any "entitlement" is WARRANTED.
ReplyDeleteTo see a staff member be this ungrateful to the CUSTOMER is pathetic, childish, and unprofessional.
fucking lmao please be a troll
DeleteAs far as I'm concerned, the only objective of "Big Jim" is to fucking suck my (the consumer's) dick.
DeleteNo, what's pathetic and childish is to whine about how a fucking children's show isn't for your grown ass.
Delete"B-B-But Lauren Faust said-"
She's said it's also for parents, i.e. it was meant to be family programming, you autistic fuck. She never said retards who refused to grow up were the target audience.
Shit like this is why everyone hated bronies; You're all a bunch of mental defects that goddamn worship pastel cartoon horsies and completely ignore that this franchise has existed for motherfucking DECADES.
Lol - "bunch of mental defects". Says a faggot whose pathetic livelihood is based around the show on a show-centric blog. Have shame.
Delete>She's said it's also for parents
Delete>parents tend to be older individuals
>the fandom is filled with older individuals
>being this pedantic over what she said
Go back to tumblr, you G1 faggot.
speaking of faggots have you seen this guy?
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGeeX4VvLV4pa2FWrLCvvxA
he likes to pick up some fights by criticize everything japanese related
https://twitter.com/TheBiggestJim/status/573504828527243265
ReplyDeleteJimmy sure has a lot of bad days.
I can't even find a single tweet that might have provoked his latest outburst.
Apparently he's responding to comments on "message boards", so maybe not on Twitter.
DeleteCorrection, it was some comments on EQD that pissed him off.
Delete>getting annoyed by EQD comments
Delete>doing that much effort over fan comments on a fan website
Jesus Jim do you even get out alot? Expect this from some bronyfaggot but you?
http://google.com/search?q=%22the+alot%22
DeleteITT: Why is Horse New's audience and detractors a bunch of Niggers?
DeleteIn this episode, Jim has learn how it's important to shut the fuck up in the social medias about some stuff that could rustle jimmies.
ReplyDeleteFor Steph Mahoney, I think she just joking, at least I want to believe she is joking.
I thought this fucking brony shit was over with, but the very first comment here is a butthurt brony whining about how a fucking kid's show is for fucking kids, and deliberately taking something Faust said out of context to justify being a spoiled overgrown child.
DeleteSo yeah, I'm with Jim on this one.
silly newfag, the autism shall forever be eternal!
DeleteSanic and tiny toons have been dead for HOW LONG and their VAs still get hassled to 'do the voices'
Time to speed, keed!
@Anon2: You're both pretty big guys
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DeleteMedia is plural.
DeleteIt's a [tele]play, not a show.
If FiM is for kids [mainly or only], explain http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic.
Well hey hey hey, you can always go somewhere where discussion of EqG is strictly forbidden! Why, we've even started a board specifically for it here! http://8ch.net/dzg/index.html (the fact there are no posts proves nobody from /mlp/ actually likes that animu shit, now THAT really is just for little girls.)
ReplyDeleteNiggoslav pls
DeleteEqG is the only good thing about the franchise.
DeleteI'm torn between these two arguments "just because it's a show for fittle girls, doesn't mean that it has to be dumbed down" and "bronies should stop taking a little girls show seriously, and should enjoyed as it is" so I'm gonna say that a fair share of criticism is necessary but not to the extent of self entitlement.
ReplyDeleteAlso afaik someone from the staff already said that mess of stiff animation that is EQG is canon.
The answer is to not get offended by or fixate on the extreme voices. Take the heart of what they're saying and cut out the bullshit, then see what others are commenting about the subject matter--not the extremity of certain commenters.
DeleteDidn't another staffer say it wasn't canon?
DeleteYou mean Meghan? Maybe that was about Flash or something, but she might've said something about EQG "not affection the show" or something that hinted at canonicity.
DeleteObligatory "is equestria girls canon" Google search's first result.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/mmeghanmccarthy/status/372926669180264448
Oh, look hiatus dra--
ReplyDeleteShit.
I think any sensible person would agree with Jim here. In the end of the day, it's just a kid's show.
ReplyDeleteSo what are we doing here?
DeleteTo enjoy the show? Do I really need to explain?
Deletenice damage control, Big Jim.
Deletewow big Jim you are a fucking idiot Lauren Faust created the show for all ages and all audiences though eqd being canon is somewhat accurate as Meghan McCarthy herself said in a tweet that it was but only to itself and not the TV series meaning things that happen in eqd will not effect the series at all
ReplyDeleteRemember, faggots: Correlation does not mean causation.
ReplyDelete> The castle in the show has a design, which was used for both Rainbow Rocks and Season 5 now.
> Here we are being told that the design used for Rainbow Rocks has a library, which we can safely assume is the same design used for S5.
This does NOT in any way claim that the scene referenced is where the library came from... only that the place she was sorting the books for is present in S5.
Interestingly, too, Big Jim does feel they cater both to children AND adults. He stresses that the show should not cater to adults OVER children: https://twitter.com/TheBiggestJim/status/586948478837911552
ReplyDeleteSo yeah, I do think some adult fans are a little over-entitled, and that's just silly.
Wait, wait, wait! Why is everybody complaining about people complaining? I am sure nobody from this website is complaining about EqG, Big Jim or some other stupid shit like that. You are preaching to the choir. But if establishing a circlejerk around your persona was your main objective - then by all means go ahead.
ReplyDelete^This
DeleteI agree. Stop this giant circlejerk b8 shit at once.
DeleteJim needs to get over it already and accept that you can't fucking please everyone, especially on fucking twitter. The guy is turning into a drama whore.
ReplyDeleteHow many years now have the creative team been doing just that, then Jim actually confronts the issue and is promptly called an attention whore among other things.
DeleteWelcome back /mlp/ hope you had a good hiatus
Letting people voice their opinions, no matter how retarded you might think they are, isn't an issue.
DeleteIf you think it is, that's a personal problem that you should look into.
The guy acts like he goes looking for shit to complain about. That's basically being a drama whore.
Mebberson did the same thing a while back over literally two EQD comments that referenced FIW and she made a shitstorm over nothing.
But that's the comics crew and practically all of them are problematic aside from Heather Breckel. She gets how things work and is chill about it.
Jim meant to say, well, of course it's not going to be on the level of an adult show, because it's meant to cater for everyone. Murrison was blindly and condescendingly telling him something he already knew. I say blindly because Jim said it RIGHT IN THE TWEET. Oh lawdy.
ReplyDeleteIt just came across as 'hurr it's for kids so it can be dumb' because of his poor wording.
That tweet about 'I'm tired of people complaining about it being "too predictable"' means he is sick of people complaining about how predictable the plot is to an adult, because they can't appreciate that kids will only understand so much complexity and it can only be so unpredictable.
It was nothing to do with defending plots that have been *overused* in the show, like keeping people away from a particular place. He was working with Lauren from the start so of course he'd share that same 'vision', and it's not too likely it would change so drastically as to disagree. People thought it was meant to defend overusing plots because they were expecting that to begin with.
CONFIRMATION BIAS NIGGA
No replies. Guess I'm right then. No possible rebuttals.
DeleteYou're wrong about everything. It also came to my attention that you're a giant faggot.
DeleteNice damage control, Big Jim. Fuck off.
DeleteCool Story, Bro.
DeleteNow fuck off back to Tumblr and take your self servicing logic with you.
I just find it hilarious that people who thought the roots of Golden Oaks being put in the throne room was disturbing, as opposed to letting it silently rot underground. It's a fucking tree, guys.
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing that these same people thought The Giving Tree was too edgy and disturbing as well. After all the old man uses it's dying mutilated corpse of a stump as a seat in the end. So dark, so disturbing.
Sure, it probably might've been better if the left over wood as made to make a picture frame or something, but otherwise I got the sentimentality, schmaltzy as it might be.
I expected better for it. Like, magical regrowing or some shit, or if even that isn't feasible in the magical fucking land of Equestria, then at least plant some new oak seeds in it's places. It's a goddamn Ponyville heritage, not just Twilight's fucking house for a year.
Deleteits, retarded hicks
DeleteIt was a joke. We're fucking joking when we say it's metal and shit. Do you really need to be told when something is a- oh right, you all took "Starlight Glimmer is a Communist" seriously.
DeleteI've long since learned that, when dealing with Anons on the internet, it's usually the safer bet to take what they say with some leeway. For every fake letter from a therapist to the showrunners saying that Twicorn makes people clinically depressed by association, you just know that there's SOME fuckwit who is dead close to actually being serious with it. It's usually the safer bet to think that someone is being a dumbass than "joking" more times than not. Shit, this site is full of people making drama over the stupidest fucking things and some legit awful things like that asswipe music stealing asshole from the other story today.
DeleteAs for the regrow the tree thing? Point, with magic there is little excuse. But I guess that Twilight just wanted to be the librarian so bad, she'll turn a wing of her castle into a replacement, making a new Golden Oaks redundant anyways. Not like it'd be the original tree anyways tho, so that's "heritage" for ya.
I found it disturbing in the sense that I'd see it as a constant reminder of what was lost, rather than a reminder of the good times. I guess I'm just pessimistic like that.
DeleteI think that when the people who make the show say they make it for fucking kids... the argument is pretty much over...? I mean, can you really disagree with that notion without coming off as a fucking child, yourself? Unless.... AHH, now I see the true meaning behind Big Jim's words.
ReplyDeleteI feel like this all started because someone complained they didn't like the newest episode. Sure there were no anime fights or dystopian communism societies this time around, but that doesn't mean it was bad. Can't everyone just quit whining and watch the ponyshow?
ReplyDeleteNo because we're all children, and children like fights and stuffs
DeleteBig Jim Miller Is The Worst Director In MLP History
ReplyDeleteJames "Wootie" Watson Is The Best Director In MLP And He's Support Unicorn Twilight Sparkle And A Good Friend Of Lauren Faust
...I don't want to sound like a total fucking prick, but it's not just WHAT you said that makes you sound pathetic, but HOW you said it.
DeleteBecause seriously: capitilzing each word, saying another director is the best because he "support" unicorn Twilight (whatever the hell that means. You mean he PREFERS original Twi?), butthurt still about Twicorn all this time later, AND bringing up Lauren and saying that her being friends with Wootie also automatically puts him higher above the others?
I won't use the typical response since I work with people who are on the Spectrum, but I suggest you take a few moments to reflect on yourself, or at least before you post. Seriously.
Take your tone argument bullshit back to tumblr where it belongs.
DeleteIt was a fucking incoherient jumble of stupid, admittedly.
DeleteI Agree With You, Mr. Twister. Mattel's Monster High Is Still Better And More Popular Than Hasbro's EQG.
ReplyDeleteJim. Take a look at Steven Universe. That show is geared towards it's target audience, little kids. Just like the show you're working on. And see how mature it is without always being mind-numbingly fun and saccharine to the point of being more like a parody of kid's cartoons. What's your excuse Jim? That kids are stupid? That they're incapable of understanding the 'big grown up' things?
ReplyDeleteIf there's a reason why FiM is another carbon copy of every vanilla kid's show, it's this article.
its, shit-head
DeleteUp until this morning, we would all laugh at Tumblr for taking cartoons this seriously and trying to make it all about them. And now here we are, witnessing the birth of the Neo-Bronies.
DeleteMy kids don't really get Steven Universe, or care for it because of it.
DeleteI don't know why you feel that kids are capable of understanding grown-up things. They're kids. I'm sick of the "kids are a lot smarter than you realize" shit some people spout. Other than my own kids, I see other kids on almost a daily basis. No, they're NOT capable of thinking as adults for the most part.
Hell, my eight-year old girl sometimes has to ask me what's going on in MLP, though more often it's because she was talking instead of listening, heh.
For you faggots whining about, "herp derp, kids can get more complex themes," go eat a dick, have some kids of your own, and then comment. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
And there is a reason why you mostly hear the praise for the show from the Tumblr/Twitter/SJW crowd.
DeleteDon't get me wrong, I watch (and like) the show too, but it has a whole slew of its own problems other than "being dumbed down for a kid's audience", and isn't the perfect golden baby you and so many others imply it is.
Jim actually went on to say that FiM is not like SU or similar shows, it has a different style of being good. Especially since it's not trying to be a parody of kid's cartoons, but an actual kid's cartoon.
DeleteBig Jim Miller Also Lied About The Leaks Episodes Expect The First Six Episodes.
ReplyDeleteThis is why official staff members of the show SHOULD NEVER be involved with social media or fans, with the exceptions of convention appearances or press conferences.
ReplyDeletethis is the only correct answer
DeleteSo why do people have problem accepting the idea that mlp is a show for kids?
ReplyDeleteYou can say Spongebob is for kids but some adults like me love Spongebob and I'm 25 and I have no problem telling people about it :/
I thought it was pretty obvious that EqG was canon, how that news to anybody?
ReplyDeleteBecause some people are still kicking and screaming about Twilight being a fucking Alicorn. They don't want to have to deal with the movies being a part of the show.
DeleteHell, that's (one of the) reason(s) why some people call Meghan a liar who lies: because she said that the first EqG movie wouldn't affect the show's plot for season 4, but when Flash Sentry (the pony) showed up in a five second cameo dropping off Cadance for an episode, people flipped their shit.
Although it makes sense in the world as well.
DeleteThe character of Flash Sentry clearly exists, so it makes sense that he might be in a background at some point or another.
People gotta calm the fuck down.
You say that. So many others say that.
DeleteBut this is the internet. They never will.
Because there's always got to be something: Derpy being 'offensive to special needs people', Lauren leaving the show and Meghan stepping up, Cadance and Shining being a part of Twilight's life which somehow makes her backstory of never making friends on her own invalid, the invalidity of the 'Two Alicorns' Theory when Cadance (and Twilight) came about, Twicorn happening, Equestria Girls (the movie and the dolls), season 3 being short, former 'big name' reviewers like Chad Rocco and Digibro slowly descending into... whatever they are as they lose the magic in the show, the IDW comics and all its drama (decline in story quality especially with Cook's writing, Andersongate, Bobby Curnow being a dick in general, Whitley's misguided attempts at 'fixing' the unfortunate dragon implications but royally fucking that up with general blunders in the story otherwise present, etc), the news of an outright FIM movie, and so on ad infinitum.
I was a fan of DC superhero books way before this show started, but I'm constantly surprised that a show about fucking horses of all things can have such a toxic fandom to rival that kind of mess.
Insert complimentary "Fuck scans_daily and Tumblr/Twitter" statement here.
"Hell, that's (one of the) reason(s) why some people call Meghan a liar who lies: because she said that the first EqG movie wouldn't affect the show's plot for season 4, but when Flash Sentry (the pony) showed up in a five second cameo dropping off Cadance for an episode, people flipped their shit."
DeleteWhy would they call her a liar for that? A cameo DOESN'T affect the plot. Personally, I'd love to see the mirror in the background in the castle sometime. No reason to make mention of it, just have it show up in the background. Or maybe have the book that communicates with Sunset's book show up on a table or something. Just a little background thing to show the connection without being overt about it.
"Why would they call her a liar for that?"
DeleteAgain, because the loud group of people who openly dispise the very thought of EqG and want their pony show 'pure' want to make sure that nothing connects them. Even the small cameo of Flash was enough to get very whiny people up in arms and declare Meghan a big fat liar who is trying to ruin Twilight's character with her wings and a pony she even barely managed to speak to in the damn movie itself.
Welcome to fandoms, internet style, where if things are not 'just so', people lose their shit and bitch.
I think Twilight would mention the possibility of going into a parallel universe with weird human-esque stick figures with skin paint on them and shit if it were canon. You know, I think that would be noteworthy.
DeleteOffscreen momentum. Characters usually do shit offscreen even when the camera isn't on them. It's not like the Cake babies were immacuately concieved and delivered in the five seconds they were introduced.
DeleteFor all we know, everyone got sick of Twilight not shutting up about it for months after it happened. As the man once said, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
>EQG is THE SHIT
ReplyDeleteFixed that for you, after all, it suits your fetish for anoxeric furries.
Lauren Faust Rules! Meghan McCarthy SUCKS! Because She's a worst story editor, worst writer, and the worst Executive Producer in the history of MLP! And we want Flash Sentry a bad guy and should be in love with Trixie and be expelled from Canterlot High and he's a adopted nephew of Discord.
ReplyDeleteShe's nice but can have faults. Okay, that's your opinion I guess. Now that's all subjective and largely hyperbolic. ...Wut da fuck did I just read?
DeleteOther Anon, I think you should take a few moments to read what you just wrote there. And maybe stop watching ponies for a while as you get your life together.
Wow since when did we let faggots post on horse-news or has the eternal summer season started again?
DeleteI dunno, but apparently for a while since you are here, dude. Don't you dare fucking tell me that last sentence wasn't riddled with pure spastic what the fuckery.
DeleteI'm personally excited to see the fandom's ideas on quality pony stories that are less predictable and more mature!
ReplyDeleteoh wait.... it's "cupcakes" and "fallout equestria" isn't it. fuck.
As soon as they stop at least putting some more mature content in there, which is arguably what made the show a giant hit, then all they're left with is the littlest pet shop. I'm sure it sells toys, but not like the autistic faggots buy pony merch. Licensed pony merch, not just the crap hasbro produces.
ReplyDeleteIf big jim is fucking stupid enough to bite the hand that feeds him, then so be it. Wonder how many 8 year olds follow him on twitter?
Read his other tweets, he's not actually saying that, it's just a bit badly formulated. Horse News should update this article to reflect the recent developments.
DeleteWhat? And ruin all this misplaced butthurt?
DeleteCouch Crusader from Equestria Daily went to Derpibooru to apply damage control and to try to pin ALL the fault on Murrison so he could try convencing everyone that Equestria Daily did nothing wrong.
ReplyDeleteHello there, I see you and me both post on Lulz, and you are that fat fetish guy :P
ReplyDeleteBig Jim Miller is the horse's ass!
ReplyDeleteNo wonder Tara Strong is leaving after Season 5 because Season 5 will be the worst season ever like Season 4. Because Season 4 had the worst season opening episode and the worst season finale episode ever!
ReplyDeleteWe want Meghan McCarthy and Big Fat Liar Jim Miller FIRED, and never work at Hasbro again! The Wings got to go and that eye-sores castle most be destroyed in season 5 and never to be seen in public again!
ReplyDeleteAre you 12?
DeleteWe want unicorn Twilight back! We want the Elements of Harmony back! We want the Golden Oak Library back! We want the friendship rainbow kingdom destroyed! And we want Discord back to a bad guy and be banished from Equestria or banished to Tararus! End the princess era Hasbro you jackass!
ReplyDeleteThank you. Yeah I hate Jim miller to. We want Unicorn Twilight back
DeleteShut the fuck up and get over it already. They ain't coming back.
DeleteShut Up! We had enough of this crap!
DeleteWe want the wings and the eye-sore castle out of here!
Season 4 is the WORST Season Ever with Big Liar Jim Miller!
ReplyDeleteSeason 1 is the BEST Season Ever with James "Wootie" Wootton.
Jim miller's fibbing is stupid. This recent outfit shows more reasons why we need to fire him
DeleteWe want Meghan McCarthy, Jayson Thieseen, and Big Fat Liar Jim Miller FIRED!
ReplyDeleteBecause their the worst production people who works at Hasbro for being a greedy monster!
Jim miller claims the episodes are "fun and easy to digest for everyone" . Yet a lot of us feel were being shoved s**t down our throats
DeleteJim miller lies don't need to take an expert to know he is fibbing
The fact that EQG is canon. Mean more said s**t down our throats.
We know that eyesore* need to be gone.
(*wings, princess , f**kin eyesore of a building.)
We have more evidence than before that might mean twilight will lose all that crap.
Jim miller needs to be fired before more "easy to digest" aka s**t gets created.
He must eat crap ALL DAY LONG to call that easy to digest
Thank You My Anonymous Friend!
DeleteLauren Faust said MLP FIM was supposed to be all audiences, man or women, old or young.
DeleteWhat Jim miller said was completely the opposite
All audiences doesn't mean 6 year old girls. Get it right Jim miller
Yeah that what Lauren Faust wants like back in Season 1 because it is a Best Season Ever!
DeleteSo listen up Dork!
>EQG is a soulless piece of shit
ReplyDelete